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April 02, 2008

Comments

Thomas Chow

Travis:

Thanks for the post. It does a good job cobbling together many of the resources that I have already seen, but many of my colleagues have not. I will refer them here to get an idea of a more neutral perspective.

Tom

Travis Hodgkins

Thanks, Tom. I kept seeing this information on different blogs and websites and I thought I'd put it together. I'm glad someone else appreciates it.

Best,
--Travis

Chelsea

It is a tricky job to sift through the different sides of the past with this issue. Thanks for doing so.. The history whether seen from either side does not hide the fact that present day Tibetan people are still being driven out of their own country as refugees, mysteriously disappearing and/or put into prison for simply speaking out. There are thousands of orphaned Tibetan children living in Dharmasala. I don't see how present day Tibet is any closer to democracy now under China's heavy handed censored rule. It is time for China to give Tibet back to the Tibetans!

Abi

Absolutely! (With regards to your "more information" comment). That was one of the more informative posts/items/articles I have read in a long time. Apparently I don't read enough because I haven't come across all these points of views and arguments. I admit that I too had an idyllic idea of what Tibet was like pre-China.
And no, neither version sounds very much like Shangri-La.
I am left wondering though, whether or not Tibet was better off before China came, would that justify oppression? Assuming, of course, that China is oppressive of course.

poetryman69

All nations, and especially the US, should boycott the open ceremonies. I believe it is the best compromise position. The athletes still get to compete but China gets exposed to the full measure of world displeasure with their horrible human rights abuses.

Stephan Jockheck

Thanks for the overview about the different points of view. It is very helpful for everybody who wants to form a differentiated opinion about the crisis in Tibet. As always the truth is the first victim in such a conflict but with your compilation of the information you help everybody to imagine what the truth is. I'm quite sure it lies somewhere in the middle.

Kathy Podgers

Thanks for weaving all this together. Let me see if I can understand what is going on here. Dalai Lama, a title conferred by Chinese Government had an opportunity when he accepted the 17 point agreement in 1951, and recieved the Chinese peacefully in Lhasa, to have Atonomy, and work with China to improve the life of 95% of the Tibetan people.

But, behind the back of the Chinese Government, he worked with his two elder brothers, both paid CIA agents, to plan a covert opperation that would include a staged "resurection" and his Highness himself voluntarily leaving Lhasa?

The CIA paid the Dalai Lama $180,000 yearly stipend, and 1.7 mill, yearly for support of his "supporters. The other wealthy slave owners? Then, when the staged uprising didn't succeed in getting the Tibetan people to join in, after all they had just been emancioated by the Chinese, the CIA with the blessings of the Dalai Lama set up terrorist camps in Mustang, Nepal, wor the purpose of conducting violent raids across border. This ended in 1974 when Nixon recognized China. But Congress continued to fund the destabelising efforts, and by the 2000's were paying 2.2 million for the Dharmasala outfit, which employed most of ther Dalai Lama's family members.

Meanwhile, back in the Tibet, China built schools for the children of tghe now free serfs and slaves, and for the first time in histroy they were able to learn to read. China also built roads and hospitals, as well as geothermal greenhouses so folks could have vegies to eat?

The life expectancy in the Dalai Lama's era was 35 years, but has now risen to 68 years, and the fertility rate is the highest in China.

All of this "progress" is called hunman rights abuses? I am supposed to feel some kind of sympathy for the Free Tibet movement. Please, give me a break!

The only reason why China brings up the condition of Old Tibet is to show how much progress has been made to correct the human rights abuses that existed before the Dalai Lama took the money and ran. Not to denegrate the Dalai Lama. But, when most people realize what life was like in Lhasa, they are horrified, and rightly so.

Now we have a US designed and funded riot in Lhasa with the horrific loss of innocent life, and the western media screems bloody murder, except they want to blame China. But oversees Chinese have been shocked and offended by the biased and unfair news "reports." So they have cinducted, on the net, an ad hoc invistigation, and outed the US privitized CIA network. At the same time, Xinhua is beefing up their reporting of the Chinese progress in human rights.

LOL

Meanwhile, in Nepal, 100 thousand refugees prepare to be relocated to third countries, 60 thousand to come to the US, because the "peaceful" Tibetan Buddhist leaders drove them out of Bhutan over the past 17 years in one of the worst examples of ethnic cleansing the world has ever seen.

Happy Mother's Day. And if I was a mother in Tibet today, I would want my ethnic Tibetan kid to go to school, get a good education, and have a bright future in China, not to be enthralled by more Dalai Lama intrigue.Modernization is not cultural genocide. All people, yes, even Tibetan people, have a right to embrace a worthwhile future.

Jack

Well, looking at Nepal and how the sherpas are used like mules and cattles, I wonder, is it better to be Chinese mules or western mules? Just what exactly is a free Tibet suppose to bring? A change of master?

And since when is Dalai THE spiritual leader? Ban and Zen represents the 2 most sacred words in Buddaism, and the BanZen lama is regarded as the greater spiritual leader, and yet Dalai was presented as THE spiritual leader(Granted, Banzen died in 1990 and the reincarnate needs to be picked by Dalai), I suppose only the "free" leader is the true leader?

That being said nobody ever mentions the fact that Tibet was always governed by imerial China since the mongolian conquest (Dalai itself was a mongolian title bestowed by an Emperor), and as such was indeed feudal.

The sad fact is most people know shockingly little of Tibet (addmitedly, that includes me), but it is rather ludicrous to think that such romantic stories of paradise are anything but a fantasy. Much like the realities for knights in the past, there are exceptions, but generally not very romantic at all.

Tibet is history, and I've learned the hard way that, History can not be changed (it can, however, repeat itself).

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